you know, i was there when sam nunn took on john tower who was nominated to be secretary of defense. and, of course, his number one defender, john's defender was john mccain back in those days. >> but this is part of how they feel about the iraq war too. >> and i've asked john mccain, i mean, what is this deal with you and chuck hagel. he says it's policy. it's all policy. so that's what he says. >> and, bob, nice bead this morning. i like that. you're always in the spirit. and who have you got coming up on sunday? >> we're going to have roger goodell, the commissioner of football. and i think it ought to be -- with all the questions about -- and especially with, you know, barack obama saying he'd have questions about whether his son would play if he had a son. so plenty to talk to the commissioner about. it's great to be in new orleans, let me also say that. >> great to have you. >> your kind of town. >> thank you, bob. >>> at the senate hearing hagel addressed the computer hacking. two major newspapers say chinese hackers infiltrated their computers for the last several months. >>>